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Monday, April 19, 2010

Utensils do say so much

Are you watching Jamie Oliver’s Food Revolution? Yes, it’s reality TV, and a little staged and whatnot, but it’s also unbelievable and eye-opening and I think necessary. I know a lot of people criticize him as being arrogant (as in, how dare this snooty Brit come and tell us we’re not doing it right?) but I don’t see it like this at all. First, it’s his life mission, one he has passionately started in his own country a long time ago, second, I think he’s very close to the people and genuinely wants to help them, and third, well, I’m sorry, but he’s right. I never think he sensationally uses the things that are wrong to culturally demean Americans or express his own superiority, but rather finds himself utterly flabbergasted by what he sees and is perceived as normal (like children who don’t know any vegetables or eat NOTHING but processed junk).

One of my personal favorite moments (discussed in this interesting article on the Huff Post) was when he realized that the elementary school he was working with (with A LOT of resistance from the people) simply didn’t have knives and forks. Jamie was really incredulous, not believing that children never learned to use them before the age of 10; but actually he wasn’t as much as the school cooks and principal, who couldn’t grasp that kids in the UK (and a lot of other countries I guess) had them, and even asked for proof.

Obviously that’s bad; there’s nothing wrong with eating with your hands once in a while, but if you start thinking about which foods require no utensils for a second, you quickly realize that it’s not usually the healthiest and a grim portrait starts to paint itself. Kids never using utensils means kids never eating pasta, or salad, or stew, or rice, or a steak or chicken breast, only an endless array of pizza and hot dogs and fries and chicken nuggets. And that’s the problem of course: by wanting to do cheap, easy lunches that the kids “would eat,” children stopped being taught about real food or basic table manners.

But that being said, it can *also* only be about snobbery and pretense, and I’m the first one to find it very irritating. The other day, I had lunch at the corner Thai restaurant with two coworkers, one French and one Quebecer. The French, as they often do, was mocking the other one who was cutting up his Pad Thai noodles with a knife and fork. The French guy quickly started to make fun of our habit of cutting spaghetti and other long pasta, which was apparently “such a sacrilege” (even though we’re also French and culturally more “Latin,” they also view us as very North American, and therefore less refined than them, which I personally think is largely bs). When the Quebecer asked him why cutting pasta was so bad, he just slammed him by saying that “it was gastronomy, so he couldn’t understand” (the guy is normally quite nice, of course he was sort of playing along the stereotype of the annoying Frenchman).

Two seconds later, I finished my own Pad Thai, leaving half of it intact (portions are just humongous). The French guy who was still hungry after his own chicken rice meal asked me if he could have my plate, and I agreed. He then proceeded to very messily eat it with his fork alone, the long soppy noodles misbehaving and giving him a hard time. I would have normally never said anything like that, but this time it was too easy and he had asked for it: “You and your incorrect habit of eating Thai food with a fork! This is meant to be eaten with chopsticks! But it’s international gastronomy, so you couldn’t understand…” He smiled, but stayed quiet for the rest of the meal.

I was quite pleased with myself. I mean, I’m all for table manners, I know a thing or two about etiquette and think it’s very important to teach my son not to eat like a slob. But if his “eating properly” logic was true for one thing, then it needs to be applied for everything, including areas he’s less familiar with. If you “must not cut spaghetti” with a knife (or lettuce or bread that’s in your plate), then it’s only normal that you eat Asian food with chopsticks the way it was designed to, but also that you eat a burger with your hands. I’ve seen a lot of French people eating them with a knife and fork, -and wine. And I’m sorry, but that’s just ridiculous and weird.

7 comment(s):

Lucie said...

An elementary school with no knives or forks sounds quite unbelievable to me! On the other hand, here were school cafeterias are virtually inexistant at the elementary level, I've heard from my friends with older children that some elementary school ask parents not to give kids snacks that need to be eaten with a spoon (such as yogourt or fruit salad) because snack is eaten at their desk and they make too much of a mess...

With sooooo many restriction on what to pack into lunch and snack --no peanuts or nuts (and sometimes other foods such as eggs or fish if a child in the class has a specific allergy), nothing disposable because of environmental concern (a friend of mine was told that a homemade muffin with a paper liner was not OK! Imagine!), lunches that are nutritionally sound AND that the child will actually eat, to have energy for the afternoon in class... most parents find lunches to be a nightmare. I used to think that a school cafeteria could solve some of these problems, but reading your post, I realize that they aren't necessarilly a good solution...

CaitStClair said...

Ha ha! Well done with the chopsticks!

I haven't gotten to watch Jamie Oliver's show yet other than just 10 minutes of one episode but I think he's doing a very good thing.

THE ALTERNATIVE WIFE said...

I haven't had a chance to watch that show yet. Life has been too hectic but I have it on dvr so I'll get to soon. Can't wait :)

Melissa said...

My brother-in-law eats everything with a fork and knife: even donuts and yes, spaghetti. The funny thing is he's adopted, but when he met his birth mother we found out she does the same thing!

That being said, my little slob can show you how to eat pasta and all sorts of things without utensils--it's not pretty. We don't encourage this, but it is possible!

Bex said...

I will never forget the time I ate at this noodle restaurant in London. All the tables were long, communal tables so you shared with other people. The waitress set down, in the middle of the table between me and my boyfriend and another couple, a bottle of sauce. I reached out and poured some on my noodles, and the man from the other couple gave me the most awful look.

Then he said--and I couldn't believe it--"It's polite to ask." In the snootiest I'm-British-and-polite-you-American-boor accent. I was so startled I didn't know what to say, because being polite is pretty damn important to me and I had no idea the sauce was "his." I said I was sorry, I didn't realize, and that was when the polite thing for him to do would be to let me off the hook and say, oh, I see. Because how was I to know they didn't belong to the table? Instead he said "It's just good manners, that's all."

I sat there, completely dumbfounded. The girl who was with him even looked uncomfortable, saying it was just a misunderstanding, but he wouldn't back down. I couldn't even finish my food.

I have thought so often of things I wish I would have said back, instead of just sitting there feeling like crap. I even ended up asking him if I could please have some more of "his" sauce (he said "by all means!" Prick.)

Good for you for putting him in his place, even just that tiny bit. Good manners means a lot of things, not least of which is not being arrogant and treating people unkindly. In fact I'd say that's probably the most important "good manners" there is, don't you think?

Rubiatonta said...

Ah, the cutlery wars! Although my usual role in the family is Subversive Auntie, I'm also the (self-appointed) Table Manners Police. The current battle is teaching my nephew how to use a knife to push things that aren't easy to spear with the tines of the fork (eg, peas, rice). For now, we've settled on him using the knife as a "wall" and moving the fork, instead of the other, "proper," way.

But as I'm among friends here, I have to confess that I'm often astounded that a super-intelligent boy of 7.5 years struggles so to eat with a knife and fork. I guess that my view of what a child of that age should be able to do is based on too many years living in Europe, where as you note, everything is eaten with a knife and fork. (Including, to my eternal frustration, oranges with the peel still on.)

Am I being unreasonable, I wonder?

Brandy said...

Jamies Revolution is very eye opening, the lack of utensils blew me away(my 1 1/2 year old neice uses a fork, knife and spoon!) The fact that none of the kids could identify a single vegetable and didn't realise french fries came from potatos! Blew my mind.

I wish they would tell you what the options are. Is the cafeteria food free for lower income families? There are kids that bring their own lunches and it looks like they put them on the other side of the cafeteria behind a partition! I'm sure this is done for the sake of the show.

Also other than highschool I have never attended a school with a cafeteria. Of course elementary school kids are going to choose nuggets and pizza over salad and roasted chicken.

I actually make fun of my husband for cutting his spaghetti! I am of the fork twirled in a spoon method, which just seems easier to me.